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  I just realized

  by mouthy in

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  i have been on this board for years..... i have had so many loving friend on here.... surely i will "kick the bucket" one day------thanks for all the lovely p.ms i get & all the help i have had .also all the kids & grand-kids i have adopted.

  i am truly blessed.

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  gordon d

  Hi Mouthy... I hope you don't kick the bucket too soon.... I just got here and I've loved reading your posts... Besides, who'd keep Mary in check? You're obviously very well loved!
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  JW's and the Approved spiritual music

  by gordon d in

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  i know that no song other than one of those toe-tappin' hits that are fds approved will ever be sung at a kh but who here has found any (biblically accurate) up-lifting songs?.

  one of my most favorite is by casting crowns, entitled "who am i".

  here's the link, if you haven't heard it..... [url]http://witsgoeilh.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/castingcrownswhoami.mp3[/url].

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  I know that no song other than one of those toe-tappin' hits that are FDS approved will ever be sung at a KH but who here has found any (biblically accurate) up-lifting songs?

  One of my most favorite is by Casting Crowns, entitled "Who am I"

  Here's the link, if you haven't heard it....

  [url]http://witsgoeilh.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/castingcrownswhoami.mp3[/url]
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  Imagine if the Watchtower crumbled and ceast to exist....

  by JH in

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  wouldn't this be a disaster for the majority of the jw's who need guidance and control?.

  all their dreams of paradise earth would be gone.

  they would have to start focusing on the time they have left to live.. although the watchtower is a controling organization and a false prophet, can we say that it has it's use for some people?.

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  gordon d

  Hey RR... You lost me... please explain further..... No functions??????
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  Elders with STRONG personalities....

  by JH in

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  there is an elder in my congregation that has a very strong personality.

  he drove volkswagens and many bought the same make as he did.

  we had another elder back then that drove a dodge aries and another elder who had a peugeot garage and he sold so many second hand peugeots to members of the congregation.

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  An Elder driving a car named after an astrological sign???.... Was he, perhap's implying that he was of the sheep (ram) class?
  
  Actually, most of the zealous dubs that I knew would have rearranged the letters on the trunk to read "ARISE" or "RAISE" instaed or "ARIES"
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  To be a Nice Apostate or a Mean Apostate.....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  ..... that is the question.. how do you react - and is it a 'planned reaction', when confronted with jdubs in public?.

  i have personally determined that i will not allow people whom i knew for 40 years in some cases to 'shun' me without a cost to the reputation of their religion in the eyes of those who see it.. if i come face to face with a witness who turns the other way or rudely brushes past [as if i am dead], i will point out to all in the area [carefull not to appear the raving lunatic] that this is the way jehovah's witnesses act toward one who has quietly left their faith.

  i expect two things will begin to happen as a result.. 1- witnesses will become so paranoid of the possiblility of meeting me and being embarrassed in public, that they will alter their schedules to avoid the places i might be.

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  Hi Sunspot... sorry to chuckle at your misery but I can just picture the whole scene.... What the heck... next time you see someone, just walk over and give them a BIG hug... keep holding them while you say "How are you? I've been praying about you so much lately and I'm so glad I got to see you!" What have you go to loose? At the very least, you'll get a new story to tell. I will take my own advice and do the same... of course, I'll keep everyone here posted if/when it actually happens.
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  New light or generation changes?

  by rolling rock in

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  is new light just something that changes with ever generation?

  it seems to me that new light comes out every ten years or so.

  keeping the young ones confused.

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  gordon d

  It may not have always been this way... like in the early years when foundational doctines were being outlined... but now it seems that the light only gets brighter when the previous bright light goes out. Changing the WTS stance seems a little more like putting in new "brighter" bulbs than actually getting more illumination.
  
  However, we do still seem to get new bulbs that coincide with new publication releases.... seems like a big waste to me. As an operations manager and ground security coordinator for our airline's FAA requirements, we would routinely get new light from the FAA... we never threw away the manuals just noted and installed the revisions. If the society went to three ring binders, just think of how much paper we could save!
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  Imagine if the Watchtower crumbled and ceast to exist....

  by JH in

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  wouldn't this be a disaster for the majority of the jw's who need guidance and control?.

  all their dreams of paradise earth would be gone.

  they would have to start focusing on the time they have left to live.. although the watchtower is a controling organization and a false prophet, can we say that it has it's use for some people?.

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  gordon d

  Don't worry...If/when it does happen... there's always Amway!
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  Birthdays and Disfellowshipping

  by geevee in

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  i am trying to find any substance to the idea that if you had a birthday celerbration as a jw you could be disfellowshipped?

  i have a word document that i made before i handed in my elders book and i have the 2005 wt cd from reexamine.

  the elders book on around page 91-94 or 5 lists a heap of things that you could be disfellowshipped for, but celebrating birthdays are not one of them.

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  gordon d

  Trying to be respectful of my family member's beliefs while still being considerate enough to acknowledge their B-day...... AND still making the point of how foolish the whole debate is:
  
  I like to call them up and sing them the WTS approved Happy Birthday song.
  
  "Pleasant anniversary of the date in which your infant body successfully traversed the birth canal"
  "Pleasant anniversary of the date in which your infant body successfully traversed the birth canal"
  "Pleasant anniversary of the date in which your infant body successfully traversed the birth canal Dear so-and-so"
  "Pleasant anniversary of the date in which your infant body successfully traversed the birth canal"
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  To be a Nice Apostate or a Mean Apostate.....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  ..... that is the question.. how do you react - and is it a 'planned reaction', when confronted with jdubs in public?.

  i have personally determined that i will not allow people whom i knew for 40 years in some cases to 'shun' me without a cost to the reputation of their religion in the eyes of those who see it.. if i come face to face with a witness who turns the other way or rudely brushes past [as if i am dead], i will point out to all in the area [carefull not to appear the raving lunatic] that this is the way jehovah's witnesses act toward one who has quietly left their faith.

  i expect two things will begin to happen as a result.. 1- witnesses will become so paranoid of the possiblility of meeting me and being embarrassed in public, that they will alter their schedules to avoid the places i might be.

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  gordon d

  How 'bout the Romans 12:20 Approach.....
  "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."
  
  I think the only thing that has made a real impact on those that knew me before and after my escape is that when a person can show compassion, love, and be a walking testimony to Christ (without the sanctioning of the FDS) the entire foundation of the FDS lie comes crumbling down.
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  Recent Tract

  by Outaservice in

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  hope this comes through for you.. http://blogs.smh.com.au/sit/archives/2006/11/inspirations_th.html.

  outaservice .

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  gordon d

  One of the comments under the article said,
  
  "Yes, I found it in my copy of the Bible as well, which leads me to wonder... What if the Jehovah's Witnesses are right? If so, God help all of us."
  
  I've got $50 bucks that says someone at bethel has this quote already typeset for positive propaganda use in an upcoming publication.... any takers????